Showing posts with label NBC's Grimm. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NBC's Grimm. Show all posts

Friday, February 10, 2012

Tor.com's "Battle of the Fairy Tale Shows" Weekly (ish) Feature

It's a regular feature on the Tor.com blog, written up as Once Upon A Time vs Grimm, which, I think has been established, is in truth a little hard to do, since the shows really are both so different. The way Teresa Jusino writes it, though, does make sense and she breaks it down by category, scoring each on the "success' of each part:

* Script   * Performances   * Production   * Representation   * Audience Engagement

A cumulative score is given at the end of each post and, you may be interested to know, after Grimm's most recent episode "Organ Grinder" based on Hansel & Gretel, Grimm has snuck ahead of Once by 0.5 of a point.


I must admit I was pleasantly surprised by Organ Grinder. While a lot of development is still needed there was a sense, this time, of the show having found it's feet a little better. It helped a lot that Juliette was featured more, that seasonal story lines had some development and that Nick totally got his Grimm on.

In the words of Ms. Jusino:
Nick in full-on Grimm Mode? Ridiculously hot. He can back me up against walls in a threatening fashion any time he wants. Attractiveness aside, that hotness had to do with the assurance with which David Giuntoli embodies Nick. Giuntoli has really hit his stride with the character, and the specifics of Who Nick Is were so clear to me in this episode because of his carefully etched portrayal.
I asked for conflict and flaws in Nick and we're starting to see it! As so neatly summarized by i09:

[SPOILER ALERT!]
Meanwhile Nick's Grimm powers must have finally kicked in, because the human form of Princess Eric spent the better part of this episode ordering around and threatening various magical creatures. About damned time. What's the point of being a terrifying Grimm if you're never going to cash that check? We did a cartoony spit-take when Nick smashed up the apothecaries stash of human bits. Absolutely amazing. And the fun didn't stop there — later on Nick threatened one of the Geiers with this excellent line, "Look at me, very closely. I know what you are...I'm not asking you as a cop so don't expect me to behave as one!" Good for you Nick! We'd rather he break the law this way, as opposed to his usual "entering with out a warrant" antics. Be the bad ass Grimm.
Meanwhile, Pilates Wolf finally called out Nick for being a selfish piece of garbage. It's about time.  
                               [SPOILER OVER]
While I don't agree with everything Ms. Jusino (at Tor.com) writes, she has many, many good points about both shows and it's interesting to see them compared like this. Considering Once's "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" fell very flat for me (and Once has been rather inconsistent since it's 2012 return - in my opinion anyway) and I thought Grimm's "Organ Grinder" was one of the best yet (definitely an upward trend of quality and interest in this show since mid-season and i09 apparently agrees!) I'm curious to see how this "battle" will play out.

If you missed the last episode of Grimm and can handle a little of the dark side, I suggest you go watch while you can. (Great guest actors for this one too and the "breadcrumb scene" didn't disappoint either.)

Of course, the two TV series, as mentioned previously are really difficult to compare, other than as any one new show versus any other new show. They both have very different approaches and audiences (for the most part) and it remains to be seen how they will develop in future. I find it interesting that Once, which initially seemed so fresh to people is now looking a little formulaic in it's approach (a complaint I was surprised to see in quite a few places around the blogging world) while Grimm, which suffered from the formula curse right out of the gate now appears to be shedding that shackle and developing some of its potential. Things change from week to week though - especially when sweeps are just around the corner - so who knows where things will go from here. For now I'm just happy that two fairy tale based shows appear to be strong enough to see out their first seasons and are planning their second. (Once has released a little information about this, though the green light isn't yet official, I believe, while Grimm is less vocal but apparently also planning beyond season one). It's all good news for people who like fairy tales and mythic stories! I'm very thankful I'm able to watch them as they develop. It's a very interesting time!

Next up for Grimm tonight is their much anticipated Itsy Bitsy Spider story title "Tarantella" with Buffy alum Amy Acker as the Black Widow (kind of like a reverse Mr. Fox story in many ways). I'm curious to see if the seasonal arc is developed even more (gosh I hope so!) as the potential with such a premise is huge.


Sunday has the return of Once, after a week off, with their also much-anticipated Valentine's Day themed sweeps show "Skin Deep", featuring Emilie de Ravin as Belle (from Beauty & the Beast), written again by Jane Espenson (she, without doubt, writes the best scripts of all on the show to date).

You can find all the "battle posts" HERE and the latest weekly write-up (on Grimm's "Organ Grinder" and Once's "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree") can be found HERE.

Friday, February 3, 2012

A Very "Grimm" Hansel & Gretel Tonight

After a week's break, NBC's Grimm returns tonight with a dark version of Hansel and Gretel (yes, a grimm version - even for this fairy tale!). 

While Nick and Hank investigate the murder of a teenager, the stakes are raised when two vagrant teens go missing.
The episode is titled "Organ Grinder" and features a creature which has an unusual use for human organs - not quite your "typical" black market donor stuff!

Hansel and Gretel (called Hanson and Gracie) will be played by Daryl Sabara (Spy Kids) and Hannah Marks.

I'm not posting the preview clip because it's a little on the gory side (visuals not violence) but you can find the main preview HERE, a couple more HERE and some promotional photos HERE.

Very curious if Grimm will be using any version of candy houses or allude to a trail of breadcrumbs...

Monday, January 30, 2012

Thoughts On NBC's Grimm – A Mid 1st Season Review


Remember the fairy tales your parents used to tell you before bedtime? Well, those weren't stories, they were warnings.

Note: This post was written after the mid-season, 2012 New Year's return of Grimm (after Of Mouse and Man). While I find I have a lot more I'd like to say in a completely different vein (and may add at a later date) these issues have been my primary concern since the pilot and remain so as of posting today.

While ABC’s Once Upon A Time and NBC’s Grimm have been compared like rival stepsisters from the start, the two shows are really very different. Grimm airs on Friday night (traditionally known as the "kill slot") and is actually doing well in comparative ratings. It also airs later than Once does, which it should as the content is definitely more graphic and adult than the family friendly Once. Grimm's procedural-grit-with-occasional-gore angle, combined with the pursuit of justice and truth is designed to be male friendly and shake hands with audiences of Supernatural. Once is a serial-soap, focused on finding happily-ever-after, complete with fairy tale fantasy brought to life that’s doing a great job of wooing the female demographic. Interestingly, Grimm’s creators seem to have a better handle on the origins and variations of the fairy tales they use than Once and being good with research, both in mythic and real world details, is one of the things that keeps me coming back. Once, however, is all about “what’s going to happen next?” in two very different ways: a) the drama – will they/won’t they? and b) the tales – what story/character are they going to use next and how? Two avenues of suspense, one show. That’s a wallop of a fan set-up. The Grimm writing team also appears to have the ability to look beyond simply retelling tales* by creating situations and guest characters with a lot of potential BUT (and it’s a capital letter B-U-T) there just hasn't been much development in the regular cast or in a strong storyline (apart from the last two episodes, Game Ogre and Of Mouse and Man) to get people’s gotta-watch factor ticking.

One of the reasons I haven’t written much about Grimm to date is that although it was supposed to be a MOtW (Monster of the Week) procedural, using fairy tales as a springboard, it really feels like it should be a lot more, especially by now. So I’ve been waiting… And from all I’ve read in forums and from critics, I’m not the only one grinding my teeth over this.

I'm a firm believer that a good storyteller can take any story, no matter how simple, lame or ridiculous the premise and turn it into gold for their readers or listeners (yes, even the ridiculous ones). The opposite is also true: no matter how good an idea is, if the storyteller isn't up to the task it will crash and burn. In Grimm we have an excellent, even mythic at times, premise told via multiple storytellers (writers, directors, actors etc). In looking at the show critically it's easy to pick things apart (eg. wooden acting, dubious CG effects etc) but I can also see a lot they're doing right. Unfortunately it's clear the storytellers aren't performing to par and I'm not sure why. By and large, the crew on Grimm all belong to impressive alumni (Buffy, Angel, CSI, Ghost Whisperer, X-Files, Wonder Years, Star Trek, Eureka among others) and you’d think they’d collectively aim higher.
 Overall, I've been quite impressed with the approach to the fairy tale monsters used in Grimm. The writers delve into history and folklore and use subtle connections to flesh out their fantastic (ie. fantasy-based) cast. The one thing they're not doing well though is making all the difference between a guaranteed hit in today’s cultural climate and a show that's seems to be holding on by its fingernails. That one thing is a strong and unique identity.
It likely goes without saying that I will continue watching the show but other viewers, who don't have the interest I do in fairy tales (and don't mind procedures), may have trouble. To put it bluntly, Grimm really isn’t really stand out at all, at least, not in the way that it counts. Characters? Largely forgettable. Monsters? A weekly hit or miss curiosity. Tales? Miss a week no problem. These sound like huge issues but it’s not a scrap-it situation. In Grimm’s case it’s very fixable, especially since there really is so much else being done right but only if they get their booties into gear immediately and start doing the following, like, now:

Add conflict (please!)
If you're a writer you will have heard this nugget more than once: "Story is conflict!" and conflict is something Grimm needs more of - a LOT more of – and I don’t mean ogres making a mess of the décor.

First up, Nick needs a good dose of angst. How can a guy - a cop who's job it is to set things right way up, no less - have his world turned upside down and be so ok with it all? Answer: he couldn’t. Especially considering he can't/won't tell a) his girlfriend he wants to marry and b) his partner whom he has to trust his very life with. A straight-up, honest guy keeping secrets, telling half-truths and outright lying? That’s so going to wear on your soul! Meanwhile his only confidante, Munroe (the reformed Blutbad aka werewolf), is from the dark side that Nick is supposed to be getting all Terminator on... so, yeah I'd say that would make for a little angst. Unfortunately Grimm's Nick is way too well adjusted, equal opportunity-pro and willing to take advice or help, which honestly, just pegs him as a little short in the smarts department. Not only that, he's, well, kinda perfect, which is a big problem. In stories perfect = yawn-worthy. Nick should be doubting himself and everyone else. He certainly needs to be (dragged down to the level of) "human" and make some mistakes, both at home and in his job. His relationship should be under great strain with the giant secrets he's keeping and Juliette, who obviously has both common sense and brains, should be feeling it all big time. (And she's a veterinarian! How can you not have scenes of both comic disaster and heart breaking tragedy tugging at your sleeve with that combo?) Nick shouldn't be able to escape all that in his work either. Having Grimm abilities would make it naturally tempting to cut corners on the job, especially in shoot-em-up situations, and the repercussions of doing just that should really hit the fan (in the best-worst possible, gotta-tune-in-next-week way). Admit it. Just talking about all the things that could and should go wrong has you more interested in Grimm than ever, right?

Follow Through - Show The Consequences
You know the formula: "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction". The same should be true in story. Everything that happens should have a price (preferably heavy on the taxes!) otherwise there are no stakes in a conflict. Unless you rewind time each week like a Brady Bunch sitcom, Portland and everyone in Grimm should be a little changed as a result of whatever happened the week before, especially since it’s literally life and death stuff we’re tuning into. Unless tragedy is possible there is no real risk (and no real reason to watch).  Nick's actions in particular must reap consequences (sometimes literally, with those scythe-wielding visitors) and nothing, and no one, should be the same after coming into contact with his Grimm-ness.

Create A Solid Vernacular For the Show
What’s vernacular in TV terms? It’s when you hear someone say: “That’s such a Rachel thing to say!” (Or Mulder/Trekkie/insert-popular-character-or-show-title-here/etc) Apart from Munroe and his wry comebacks, this show is crying out for some witty repartee, snappy (quotable even!) dialogue and a use of language that’s particular, peculiar even, to Grimm. Good dialogue is really all about character. Snappy dialogue is all about smart characters under pressure, which is something every single person in this show should be. With the outlandish and fantastic aspects of this show, a scene or situation can go from hokey to brilliant, simply by clever use of language that catches the ear of the audience. On paper, the writing isn't bad. There aren't huge clunker-lines for the most part (what the actors do or don't do with them is another issue) and the mythology is sound and original enough to be different. The weekly stories and fairy tale references are generally cohesive and there's a sense of humor that runs throughout. Unfortunately it often feels self-conscious or uncomfortable in the Grimm skin it's in. That's no good for character development or for giving a show a recognizable stamp. I say grab that branding iron in your hot little hand and use it with ferocity that makes people notice. It’s rarely love or hate that kills a relationship (or viewership). It’s the middle-of-the-road, not-too-any-one-thing-in-particular that does it. Proper use of branding irons should remove any possibility of apathy! This show not only rides the wave of current fairy tale popularity but also the still-booming trend of urban fantasy - a genre that uses wry and smart, sassy humor to deal with the weird, to cope with tragedy and things out of the ordinary. The writers and creators of Grimm cut their teeth on this brand of clever so we know they have the skills. While I'm not asking for a repeat of “Buffyisms”, as fantastic as they were, I do wish Grimm would stop dipping its big toe and instead boldly cannonball in to create its own vernacular and brand of story telling.

At the moment, Nick is a little like The Boy Who Set Out To Learn Fear, someone who is barely bothered by anything that crosses his path, but my fear is that he won't discover it (and take real risks) until the viewers have gotten tired of his banal reactions (or poor underutilized Juliette meets a grisly end as people originally predicted). We need to see Nick second-guessing everything, including what the heck a "Grimm" is anyway. He needs to get into trouble, be backed into impossible corners and even more impossible dead-end alleys while figuring his own way out in the nick (heh) of time even as he compromises who he thinks he is. Doing all this against the larger backdrop of dark fairy tales and formidable fairy tale creatures is mythic in the making, if the blend is right. The guy that survives all that amid monsters (human and non) and keeps trying is someone to root for and ultimately someone you want to have your back - especially when you visit Portland...

There's no doubt fairy tales are more than just stories and any book or series that tackles that has a lot it can do. What it comes down to is this: people really want to see the potential in every man, especially the hero, to be a monster and his struggle to rise above it. After all, that's what fairy tales - and being human - are really about. 

It can also great for ratings.

* I don’t mean to imply that retelling a fairy tale is simple. To keep a tale fresh, relevant and surprising while being a retelling is difficult. As I’ve said before, my hat is off to Donna Jo Napoli who retells tales in the most incredible way I’ve ever seen. Kudos also to Cameron Dokey whose retellings in the Simon Pulse “Once Upon A Time” series are fresh and lovely.

Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Tam Lin & "Grimm"

Castle of the Enchantress by Alan Lee

I'm not normally a promoter of fan fiction but I'm making an exception for this recently written story since it does two things: 1) it makes good use of the fairy tale ballad Tam Lin (a favorite of mine) and 2) shows some of the (unused) the potential of NBC's Grimm.

Although this is essentially a fairly straight forward retelling of Tam Lin (with Juliette as Janet, Nick as Tam Lin in need of rescuing, Captain Renard as the fairy queen (king?) and the ever-helpful Monroe as sidekick), I think it does a good job of showing the sorts of places these characters could go, as well as illustrating how much fun a series arc could be, especially if it too is based on a fairy tale. Also interesting is the response of other fans to this piece. It's become very popular and is being linked to from all over the place. To me that says a lot about where this show could go.

One of the main criticisms of Grimm is that it's taking far too long for any series arc and character development to take place. Juliette (the MCs girlfriend) is frustratingly under-used and obvious repercussions of Nick's actions as a "Grimm" aren't being explored much, if at all. This fan fic tackles all that while managing the keep the characters true to the show, bring together hinted at plot lines and still leave the world wide open for exploring.

I could see certain aspects of a Tam Lin device developing over a few episodes, rather than this being told hurriedly in one, though I think "Anonymous" did a nice job. I'm not assessing this for the writing quality (think quickly written first draft with fairly good pacing that hits all the important points) but more for how apt it is for the show, characters used, genre and for the fairy tale angle. In other words, there's a ton of potential here I'm finding myself wishing I'd see explored in the actual show.

By the way, this little gif below, ties in nicely with the Tam Lin angle so thought I'd add it to help provide some visuals while you're reading. :)

If you like Tam Lin, or are wishing (like me) that Grimm's Juliette would be more of a major player in Nick's double-world, then take a few minutes and have a read. It's light, fun and Monroe bantering with a capable, smart Juliette is something I'd really like to see.

You can read the whole story (posted in 4 parts) HERE. (Scroll down past the "prompt post".)

I only wish I could properly credit the author. Clearly they've hit on something with Grimm fans.

A final observation: while Once is being talked about in forums, blogs and podcasts in a speculative sense, it's Grimm that seems to be inciting fan fiction. Clearly viewers see a lot of potential in the show's premise and world of Grimm creatures and tales that just isn't being explored. I too, hope that changes, and soon.

One note re the site: Try not to get put off by the site's name. I found this fan fic by searching for recent Tam Lin additions to the web, not by looking for Grimm news or because I was previously aware of this forum. A quick look around this site turned up a lot of NSFW adult content so I feel lucky to have stumbled across this at all. Despite this, you can be reassured that the story itself is completely clean and safe for work, as are the comments to date.

Tuesday, December 20, 2011

Fairy Tale Holiday Viewing Gifts From ABC & NBC

 
 
You should already be aware that ABC is offering free viewing over the holiday break of ALL of the full Once Upon A Time episodes - first to most recent via their website.  

BUT did you also know you can watch FULL EPISODES FOR FREE WITH CAST AND CREATOR COMMENTARIES as well?


(Woo-hoo!)

Not to be left out of the party, NBC has joined the spirit of giving and is also offering free holiday season-to-date catch-up viewings - again, first to most recent - of ALL the full Grimm episodes during the break too.
Yay!

While there are no commentaries per episode for Grimm as for Once (boo-hoo!) BUT there are many video interviews of the cast and behind-the-scenes production, writing and actor preparation for many of the stories that have been available all along, as well as some nice additional fairy tale, creature feature and real life parallel stories info on the site too.

So if you haven't had the chance to explore the site yet, the holiday break is a good time to indulge.

Here are the episode titles for both shows to date:

(If you click on the show title you'll be taken to where you can view the episodes for free during the holiday season/winter break period. If you click on "synopsis per episode" underneath you'll be taken to a longer list for each show, including completed episodes due to air with synopsis for each episode included.)
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Ep 1 - Pilot

 Ep 2 - The Thing You Love Most


Ep 3 - Snow Falls


Ep 4 - The Price of Gold


Ep 5 - That Still Small Voice


Ep 6 - The Shepherd


 
Ep 7 - The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter


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Ep 1 - Pilot


Ep 2 - Bears Will Be Bears


Ep 3 - Beeware

Ep 4 - Lonelyhearts


Ep 5 - Danse Macabre


Ep 6 - The Three Bad Wolves


Ep 7 - Let Your Hair Down

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I'm psyched with the opportunity to catch up and do a little closer viewing and analysis of both shows (and oh heck - just enjoy them all again)! I just hope I can get me some time blocks to indulge at least a little before the opportunity passes... (which I'm guessing will be the week that the shows start airing again - Sunday January 8th for Once & Friday January 13th for Grimm).

Happy holiday viewing!

Monday, December 19, 2011

Between the Pages: Video Discussion on Fairy Tale TV, Movies & Fables

With all the recent fascination in fairy tales being updated and twisted, Bill Willingham's Fables have come up in discussion since day one of the Once & Grimm TV premieres, the concern being that his long popular idea has been "ripped off" (with special finger pointing at the Once Upon A Time producers).

Bill Willingham himself met with the Once Upon A Time producers to sort out any misunderstandings (a meeting which went very well) and has assured fans in a self-interview/essay that there is no "rip off" in progress but instead more of a "fairy tales in the zeitgeist" situation. You can read all about it in this article HERE from earlier in the month which has the "self-interview" and a more recent one HERE in which the Once creators are interviewed on their view of the meeting (this is the one The SurLaLune Blog linked to this week).

I have to post an excerpt because no matter what gripes and niggles I have about anything based on fairy tales, this is my main feeling too. Mr. Willingham asked himself this (and I'm posting the "general" answer part, though he gets more specific in the article):
"Do you like (the ABC series) Once?" 
I like anything that raises the awareness of fairy tales and folklore as the raw stuff from which some of our best stories are being told today. The mercenary part of me hopes that every single fan of "Once" will also check out "Fables." Remember, stories aren't automatically in competition with each other. If I like Batman, it doesn't mean I have to dislike Captain America. I'd hate for "Fables" to be the only fairy tale-based story out there. If that were the case, I'd have nothing to read or watch for pleasure in this genre I love. I want more of what I want. Snacks are nice, but a feast is better.
Not all fans are so accepting of this trend though, particularly comic book enthusiasts, despite Mr. Willingham's plea to fans to back-off with the accusations:
As grateful as I am to discover so many loyal Fables readers, willing to man the barricades, to help protect a story they love; as much as it moves me to realize I’ve been part in creating something that clearly moves you, affecting your lives in ways only a good story, well-told can, I think it’s time to lay off.
Some of the fan responses haven't been nice at all, calling Mr. Willingham a "coward" (among other things!) but I think it's clear that despite it all, Fables is very likely to attract a whole new slew of fans because of Once. (Maybe that's the fan-plan after all. :D ) As far as I can tell Mr. Willingham hasn't responded to these comments and personally, I don't think he should have to. I think he said it all incredibly well in his interview/essay.

This leads me up to today's actual post topic (apparently I had more preamble in me than planned!) which is a new web show called "Between the Pages". It discusses issues going on in the comic book world with a guest and right now, fairy tales are the hot topic. This week they discuss everything from comics to TV series to the variety of movies coming out based on fairy tales. Take a look:



What do you think? Do you agree with their assessments for the TV series? How about their movie success (or lack of) predictions?

While we're on the topic of comparisons, I thought I'd throw this is in for some extra fun. Here is a "pre-Once" article from October which pits Disney characters against their Fables counterparts to see who wins. Here's the idea:

The idea of fairytale characters exiled into the real world appeals to readers because of their familiarity with the characters -- or at least the kid-friendly version from Disney. But how would the Vertigo revamps stack up against their all-ages counterparts? We've asked Invincible Super-Blogger Chris Sims to put some of our favorite Fables against their Disney counterparts for a head-to-head comparison to find out!
It's a recommended read and should leave you smiling. :) Check it out HERE.

Friday, December 9, 2011

Article: "Once" vs "Grimm" - Is There A Gender Issue?

NBC's Grimm Detective Nick Burkhardt & ABC's Emma Swan from Once Upon A Time
 This is an interesting article which considers that the differences between NBC's Grimm and ABC's Once Upon A Time may be gender based.  (The lighting, makeup and Photoshop work in the two lead photos above may give you a clue as to where this is going..! :D )

It's titled:
...which brings up some intriguing thoughts.

Clearly the writer is smarting from how often women's fiction is considered second class but it's not just a rant on the inequalities of how women's fiction is treated. Starting at the third paragraph she begins to make a good case for why Grimm and Once fall into this category.
A striking case study of the gendered gap in pop culture is airing on television right now in the form of Grimm and Once Upon A time, both of which are playing with the fairytale genre. Seeing major networks attempt to bring fantasy to the lineup is exciting, but it’s telling to compare and contrast the presentation and reception of both shows, which clearly illustrate the divide when it comes to storytelling. Same genre, similar premise, but these two shows are handled very differently.

Note: I have to disagree with the last sentence of the quote. Though both shows use fairy tales, the premises and genre are very different - one is primarily a procedural, with crimes to solve and takes place in our world (albeit with fairy tale creatures living alongside us) while the other is a character drama and has an 'island' (fictional isolated town of Storbrooke) and parallel universe (the Land Of Fairy Tale) which is completely different to ours. But still, I understand what the writer is trying to say. You can't help but compare the two. Heck - we do it here all the time. ;)


This is a good comparison of the lead character's arcs:
The protagonists of both shows are experiencing similar trajectories. Nick (Grimm) and Emma (Once Upon A Time) are both coming to terms with the fact that things they thought were mythological, confined to books, are actually real. They’re also both tasked with saving people from threats they don’t even know about, can’t recognise, and probably couldn’t deal with if they saw them. They’re heavy with knowledge they can’t share with anyone, and occupy hero roles on both shows even as they have assistants to help them navigate the worlds they are inhabiting. The weight of the world is on their shoulders.

 

While I don't agree with every point in the article (eg the idea that "Emma is lesser because she's a girl" doesn't ring true for me), there are many good observations made with plenty of food for thoughts to chew on. The additional note at the end about the ads on Hulu is both funny and telling too.

You can read the whole article (recommended - as there are many different ideas there I haven't represented in this post) HERE.

I think there is a very good chance that Once has a higher viewership by women but not only for the reasons outlined in the article (which didn't even bring up the copious amounts of glitter present in Fairy Tale and re-occurring unicorn in the titles!). First of all it's on ABC which is considered a family channel (ie for women, plus their kids and hopefully the boys will stick around too). This alone counts for higher ratings opportunities - family friendly drama is far more likely to have a higher viewership than a gritty, at times gruesome police procedural.
Second, there's a lot of emphasis on the princess side of the land of Fairy Tale in Once, glitter included which seems designed to draw in kids and the romantically (and Disney-fan) inclined, while Grimm seems more aimed at an older and edgier audience. Not surprisingly, reports show it is growing in popularity among post-Twilight-movie fans for instance.

What do you think? Are the TV series really in a gender battle? Is Once doing a disservice to how women and womens issues are viewed? Which demographic is Grimm aimed at?